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enSous Vide Tuning
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<div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>A while back I built a controller for doing home Sous Vide (write up to come...). It controls a hotplate under a pan of water and uses a digital temperature sensor to attempt to maintain a constant, precise temperature. I hacked together a simple control system, and found that it worked very badly for controlling a system with so much lag. I tried a bit of tweaking, but it was still not very good - a tendency to overshoot massively, and take a long time to cool down. So, I looked into hooking up a PID controller - a good, solid engineering solution if you don't have knowledge that something else is better. </p>
<p>PID stands for proportional, integrative, derivative. The controller has these three parts, which act over the error between a desired and current state, to give a control level; that is, the control level is the sum of terms based on<br />
* the current error<br />
* the integral of the current error<br />
* the differential of the current error (or output - the differential is the same)</p>
<p>There's a nice Arduino library to do this at: http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Code/PIDLibrary. Setting it up and using sensible defaults from the article gave a fairly poor performance. This is because it needs to be tuned for my particular hardware. In particular, I suspect my response times are a couple of orders of magnitude slower than usual circuits. The lag term is especially problematic.</p>
<p>This article at MBED: http://mbed.org/cookbook/PID gives a really nice introduction to PID, and tuning it for a particular system. As a first approximation (because it takes a really long time to work out properly) I'm going to follow it through using partly remembered and made up values - hopefully, this will get a reasonable response, and I can tune more later.</p>
<p>The controller takes three parameters:<br />
* [tex]K_c[/tex], for proportional control,<br />
* [tex]\tau_I[/tex], for the integral component<br />
* [tex]\tau_D[/tex] for the derivative component.</p>
<p>Here, I'm just going to set up a PI controller (no D) for simplicity.</p>
<p>== Step Response ==</p>
<p>The first part is based on the step response - the way that the sensed variable changes in response to a step in the output of the controller. There are three parameters here: </p>
<p>* Process Gain ([tex]K_p[/tex]): how much the control variable changes for a given step in output. My output is between 0 and 32 (controlling duty cycle for the hotplate). I think it's around 5C change for a step of 2, but I'm not sure - I'll revisit this later. For the constant, we have:<br />
[equation]K_p=\frac{\Delta PV}{\Delta CO} \approx 5/6 \approx 1[/equation]<br />
* Process Time ([tex]T_p[/tex]): how long the output takes to reach 63% of its final value after the change becomes visible. I'm going to estimate this at 5 minutes: [equation]T_p=300s[/equation]<br />
* Dead Time ([tex]\theta_p[/tex]): how long before the output starts to respond. I think this is about 2 minutes: [tex]\theta_p=120s[/tex]</p>
<p>According to MBED, there's one more component, [tex]T_c[/tex] which controls how aggressive the system is. Due to problems in the past with overshoot, I'll go for a moderate value:<br />
[equation]T_c=max(T_p, 8 * \theta_p) = max(300, 960) = 960[/equation]</p>
<p>Now putting this together we get:<br />
[equation]K_c = \frac{1}{K_p}(\frac{T_p}{\theta_p+T_c}) = \frac{1}{1}\frac{300}{120+960} = 0.25[/equation]</p>
<p>we need this as a percentage, so we scale by 32/100 to get [tex]K_c=0.08[/tex]</p>
<p>Apparently we set [tex]\tau_i=\T_p=300s[/tex].</p>
<p>Running this gave a bit of a slow response, with a fair bit of overshoot. For the sous-vide, overshoot is a problem, as some bits of the food will end up overcooked. So, after doing a bit more reading of [http://www.controlguru.com/wp/p78.html controlguru], it looks like adding the derivative component doesn't need any more parameters. The IMC tuning parameters are:<br />
[equation] K_c=\frac{1}{K_p}(\frac{T_p+0.5\theta_p}{T_c+0.5\theta_p});<br />
T_i=T_p+0.5\theta_P; T_d=\frac{T_p\theta_p}{2T_p+\theta_p}[/equation]</p>
<p>[equation] K_c=\frac{1}{1}(\frac{300+30}{960+30}); T_i=330+60; T_d=\frac{300*120}{600+120}[/equation]</p>
<p>[equation] K_c=0.33; T_i=390; T_d=50;[/equation]</p>
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